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Prohibition Is Not The Answer

I have been giving the whole situation in Georgia and Florida (regarding the artifact related laws) and trying to think about things in a different light and weigh out other possibilities.
 
Heres what I think we KNOW for certain:
 
1) The current laws are not realistic. Even if you give the legislatures the benefit of the doubt as to their purposes of passing these laws, as well intended, the fact remains that the laws as they currently exist ARE NOT what was originally intended, IMHO.
 
2) Prohibition has not, and never will, work. It didnt work in the 1920's with alcohol, and it wont work today, even given our socialistic and burgeoning government of these times.
 
3) Real Collectors are going to find ways to collect, legally.
 
4) The States really dont have the resources, and never will, to recover artifacts that are buried in river bottoms that are not in archaeological context. Whats the benefit of leaving them there if the state is never going to recover them?
 
5) As undesirable as it may seem (especially now), there MUST be some sort of dialogue between the collecting community and the State Archaeologist. Trust me, I know, we have tried in the past, but we owe this hobby we love, a yeoman effort. I think its past time we formally requested meetings with the State Archaeologists, and if possible, we enlist the aid of a receptive State Representative(s) or Senator(s).
 
6) Collectors have got to stick together. All the division, competing factions, and "lone ranger, gonna do what I wanna do, regardless of what the law says", hasn't accomplished a thing, except for the mess we are in. The "back-biter, keep junk stirred up", individual(s) are not worthy of an audience.
 
7) Collectors have got to be willing to compromise - BUT - The State and the Anti's have got to compromise as well. Obviously, neither side "wants" to compromise, but we must consider real "quid pro quo". What are we willing to do, to move forward?
 
8) The State is, and will continue to look for revenue. Just like alcohol prohibition, the State could turn the current dilemma into a revenue source.
 
9) 99% of the collecting community are NOT grave robbers, pot holers, meth heads, and trespassers. The 99% MUST rid ourselves of this element and even assist in the reporting of anyone known to engage in illicit behavior. I dont know of one single person that digs in mounds, graves, etc....and I dont think many of us, do know anyone doing such.
 
10) Private property rights must be protected. PERIOD.
 
11) State and Federal lands must be protected

12) Without the generous donations of information, artifacts, and resources from amateurs and collectors - there would be virtually NO MUSEUMS OR PRESERVATION OF ANY EXTENT. It is a known fact that 90+% of the artifacts in the museums in the country are due to collectors and amateurs. Proper respect iand credit is due.

13) The demonization of the collecting community by the professional community, must stop.

Some food for thought?

A) License the legal recovery of isolated finds, and charge fees associated with licensure. Charge $250 or more for an Isolated Finds Permit

B) REQUIRE MONTHLY REPORTING (ONLINE - no cumbersome paper forms) -
No reports - no license renewal the following year.
 
C) Put serious fines for anyone caught looking for artifacts without proper license, of say, $1000. This would encourage license sales, and the funds generated could fund a well thought out, efficient, reporting program
 
D) Easy reporting (online for example) would make for fast access and a [B]discussion board like this one[/B], could be in place for information sharing, training, etc...
 
E) Have an annual license fee for anyone (besides the finder) wanting to buy/sell (Dealer license) any legally obtained Florida artifact.     
 
F) Refuse to purchase, buy, sell, trade, any artifact found that does not have an accompanying Isolated Finds Report Document, (once the program is in place), for those isolated finds recovered from waterways, after the effective date of the program.
 
G) Replace any existing laws that are not in conformity to this new program.
 
 
Before everyone gets up in arms and wants to run me out on a rail -

Consider what you have right now - NOTHING.
Consider recent events.
Consider the current laws.
Consider what happens if we dont find workable solutions and MAKE THE EFFORT to find something we can live with.
Consider how miserable things have been for all of us since February 27th.
 
Or, we could just continue to sit idly by, stiff in our positions and continue to do what we have always done. RESULT - we will always get what we have already gotten.

Right now - thats pretty much nothing.

Think about it.

1 x Deadly Duval
2 x Polished Chattahoochee Dalton
1 x Brown Expanded Notch Bolen
1 x Legends In Stone CULTURAL EDITION
2 x Honey Glazed Savannah River
1 x Extra Expanded Notch Bolen
2 x Super Polished Bannerstone
2 x First Stage Chattahoochee Dalton
2 x Adobe Hillsborough
2 x Creamy Kirk Corner Notch
2 x Flared Ear Santa Fe
1 x Speckled Levy
3 x Resharpened "Baby" Redstone
4 x Cinnamon Newnan
2 x "Caribou" Clovis
1 x Super Stained Pickwick
1 x Stormy Seas Newnan
1 x Blue Green Kirk
3 x Stealthy Lafayette
4 x Leopard Spot Flake Knife
1 x Rare Dalton Greenbriar
1 x Curved Stemmed Candy Waller
3 x Royal Elora
2 x Cordon Blue Hernando SOLD
2 x Horse Creek Blade
1 x "Molasses" Hardin
3 x Pin Prick Pickwick
2 x Gold Trim Black Suwannee
4 x Burnished Levy
2 x First Stage Cobbs Blade
2 x Mahogany Clovis - Make Offer
1 x Curvy Lines Lafayette
1 x Serrated Kirk Corner Notch
2 x G10 Union Side Notch
3 x Creamy Southern Hardin
1 x Rosey Marion
2 x Green Hornet Yadkin
1 x Super Slick Savannah River
1 x Long Orange Bolen
2 x Restored Tip Tallahassee
1 x South Ga Seminole
1 x Dark Levy
2 x Restored Baybottom Simpson
1 x "Porpoise" Bolen
1 x Hot Pepper Hamilton
1 x Deep Notch Lafayette
2 x Earthtones Big Sandy
1 x Creamy Cypress Creek
2 x Coral Eiffel Tower Hernando
1 x Sexy South Prong
3 x VERY MINOR Repair Clay SOLD
2 x Ben Waller Beaver Lake
1 x "Grainy" Coral E Notch Bolen
1 x Sidewinder Delta Wing Clay
1 x Salmon Hardee
2 x "Star Trek" Greenbriar Dalton
2 x Hard Candy Kirk Corner Notch
1 x Legends In Stone - Archaic Stemmed Edition
2 x Pyro Pasco
3 x Steinhatchee Style Hernando
1 x "Corned Beef Hash" Newnan
1 x Sleek Sarasota
1 x Blue Gray Osceola Greenbriar
1 x Coral Ross Co Clovis
2 x Silver Surfer Clovis
1 x Contender Columbia
2 x Amazing Agate Basin
1 x Snow Cap Marion
1 x Dusty Rose Clay
1 x Bayonet Bolen
3 x Sahara Kirk Serrated
2 x Paint Pallette Stanfield
1 x Strawberry Hillsborough
1 x Wide Spoon Waller
1 x Brownie Big Sandy
1 x Butternut Bulltongue Simpson
5 x Hardee Plain (Unbeveled)
1 x Tri Color Alachua
1 x Handful Hamilton
1 x Lengthy Levy
4 x Legends Clovis
2 x Toasty Hillsborough
1 x Brite Big Sandy
2 x Frosty Coral Newnan
2 x Golden Newnan
4 x BOB Volume #1
2 x Gorgeous Paleo Bi Face Blade
2 x Hafted Area Newnan
1 x Gut Hook Waller Knife
1 x Bowie Knife Wacissa
2 x Heartbreak Stem Hillsborough
1 x Garnet Hernando
1 x Copper Lost Lake
3 x Flint Life Oval Sticker
2 x Pink Ear Spool
2 x "Fat Tuesday" Waller Knife
1 x Orange Levy
1 x Burrin Tip Newnan
1 x Star Trek Yadkin
2 x Hot Coals Kirk Corner Notch
2 x Famous Finder Suwannee
3 x Agate Beaver Lake
4 x Firefall Kirk/Levy
1 x Creek Bank Levy
3 x Creamy Coral Newnan
2 x Milky Way Levy
1 x Candy Sarasota SOLD
3 x Mottled Wacissa
1 x Salvaged Bannerstone
1 x Beautiful Bannerstone SOLD
1 x Magma First Stage Bolen
1 x NEW! Point Types Of The Deep South Poster
1 x Extra Wide Levy
1 x Dark Night Newnan
4 x Yellow Jacket Simpson
2 x Colorful Guilford
1 x Gnarly Kirk Serrated
1 x Bullseye Coker Spear
2 x Mann Site Levy
1 x Ivory Colored Bolen
1 x Rusty Brown Bolen
1 x Earth Tones Kirk
1 x Affordable Pinetree
3 x Granite Celt
1 x Caramel Kirk Serrated
2 x Restored Lost Lake
2 x Peachy Bolen Plain
2 x Saw Teeth Elora
1 x Itty Bitty Clay
4 x Rusty Unfluted Clovis
1 x Coral Weeden Island
1 x RARE Cowhorn Bolen
2 x Red Hot Cobbs Blade
1 x Heavy Duty Edgefield
2 x Serrated Hernando - SOLD
3 x Points And Blades of the Coastal Plains
2 x "Lifesaver Red" Stanfield
1 x Rare Serrated Hernando SOLD
3 x Red and Black Simpson
3 x "Fluted" Waller Knife
2 x Lemon Agate Lochloosa
1 x Stealth Fighter Lost Lake
1 x Double Effigy Hair Pin Topper
1 x Buckskin Kirk Serrated ON HOLD
1 x Morse Knife Dagger
2 x "Doberman" Hernando
3 x Glossy Coral Arredondo
2 x White Withlacoochee
1 x Candy Kirk Corner Notch
1 x Paleo Butcher Knife
2 x Strawberry Swirl Lochloosa Newnan SOLD
1 x Southern Harvest Savannah River
1 x Ruby Red Kirk
1 x White Clovis
1 x WOW Factor Wacissa
1 x Flint Life Oval Sticker - Special 2 for $5
1 x Newnan Coral Drill
2 x World Class Thin "Slab" Newnan
1 x Sizzling Paleo Cache Blade
1 x Blood Clot Newnan Dart
1 x Plantation Clay
1 x Magnum Cum Laude Marion
1 x Coral Safety Harbor
2 x Red Briar Creek Blade SOLD
1 x Wonderful Withlacoochee
1 x Chocolate Tip Tampa
1 x Shark Tooth Pendant
1 x Blushing Stem Pickwick
1 x Creamy Lost Lake- KCN
1 x Sunset Marion
1 x Leopard Spot Simpson
1 x Blue Bayou Sav River
1 x Brown Greenbriar
2 x Blue Big Sandy
2 x RARE KINCHAFOONEE Drill
1 x Perfection Pinetree
1 x GLossy Hillsborough
2 x "Willow Leaf" Waller Knife
1 x Peachy Peg Drill
1 x "Holey" Pickwick
1 x Color Craze Cowhouse Slough
1 x Eared Florida Beaver Lake
2 x Thin Kirk Corner Notch
1 x South Ga Bolen
2 x Opalized Marion
3 x Dark Dime Thin Hernando
1 x Rindy Kirk Coker Spear
3 x Ebony Clovis SOLD
1 x Snakeskin Newnan
2 x Sizzling Savannah River
3 x Striped Simpson
1 x Witch Nose Waller
1 x Honey Dripper Clovis
1 x Ale Colored Hernando SOLD
1 x Sunburst Bolen
1 x Colorful Kirk Stemmed
2 x Yellow Fella Kirk Corner Notch
1 x Creamsickle South Prong Creek
1 x Snowdrift Hernando
1 x Tiny Barnacle Fishtail Simpson
1 x Apricot Newnan
1 x Bodacious Bolen Plain
1 x Wicked Weeden Island
1 x Black Mamba Big Sandy
1 x Hot Streak Cypress Creek SOLD
1 x Black Widow Bolen
1 x Super Rare Moustache Wheeler
1 x "Cattywampus" Marion
1 x Bi Pointed Bone Pin
2 x Glowing Big Sandy
1 x Outrageous Osceola
1 x Pink Panther Pickwick
1 x Ultimate Heartbreaker
1 x Rainbow Coral Hillsborough
1 x Beveled Hardin/Lost Lake
1 x Hard To Find Hardin
1 x Pink Lemonade Hillsborough SOLD
1 x Safety Orange Muckalee
1 x Yellow Newnan
1 x Big Nipple Osceola Greenbriar
1 x Sunrise Coral Marion SOLD
2 x Stemwinder Pickwick
1 x Super Polished Gorget
1 x Honey Gemstone Bolen
1 x Superior Six Mile
1 x Unfinished Bannerstone
1 x Butterscotch Bolen
1 x Texas Bomber
1 x Cotton Top Pickwick
1 x Deadly Newnan Dart
1 x Fl Agate Hernando
1 x Glowing Bell Blade
1 x Striped Marion
1 x Dark Olive Simpson
1 x Heat Seeker Abbey SOLD
3 x Legendary Bolen "Plain"
1 x Tiger Stripe Coral Hillsborough SOLD
1 x Fire Wacissa
1 x Orange Slice Abbey
2 x RED HOT SPECIAL - 4 volume Legends Set
1 x Apricot Coral Ocala
1 x Sassy Tallahassee SOLD
1 x Flint "Tomahawk" Axe
1 x Bent Tip E Notch Bolen
1 x NEW! Point Types Of The Deep South Poster
1 x Nice Hamilton
1 x Butternut Boggy II
2 x Choco Stripe Pickwick
1 x Cool Culbreath
1 x Lemon Agate Lafayette
1 x Crimson Boggy Type 1
1 x Lemon Agate Hernando
1 x Super Suwannee SOLD
2 x Papaya Marion
1 x Wagon Wheel Hardee SOLD
1 x Fine Lerma Knife
1 x Fall Frenzy Savannah River
1 x World Class Cypress Creek
1 x Blue Sapphire Citrus
1 x Large Arrendondo
1 x Orangey Marion
1 x Incised Bone Pin
1 x Speckled Marion
1 x Crimson Simpson
1 x Camo Newnan
1 x "Nippled" Osceola Greenbriar
1 x BOB Volume #4
1 x Greenstone Chisel
1 x Bi-Pointed Blade/Waller
1 x Chili Powder Newnan
1 x Yellow Wacissa
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